He wants to argue that the kissing part is pretty different from papping, but that's not likely to go anywhere after Roland. Or, now that he mentions her, the Disciple.

"How the fuck did you manage?" he asks, and his head pulls up straight. "I heard of that, and I wondered about it, but here you are right in front of me to talk about it, so talk. Four at once, you living locomotive device crash. My pan nearly warped inside out and ate itself just trying to comprehend you and Roland, so seriously, tell me."

He should have asked a long time ago, now that he thinks about it. It would have explained a lot.